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Thread: 13B W/ Camden Supercharger
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jstutznegger
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posted December 21, 2003 10:05 AM |
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13B W/ Camden Supercharger
This ad is new as of today 12/21/2003
I was in the middle of restoring my REPU but ran out of job and money. I have this "brand new" remanufactured 13B engine just waiting to find a home in someone's REPU. It was in mine but I never got to the point of starting it up. I purchased it from Atkins Rotary in Puyallup, WA (atkinsrotary.com) expressly for my REPU so it has all of the right hookups for the truck. If you buy this engine you don't need any thing else. It includes the 13B engine, new Holley carb., new Camden 5 pound supercharger, new electronic ignition, new heavy duty clutch and pressure plate, and an alternator and starter. The cost of this package was over $5,200.00, which you can verify by contacting them. I'M GOING TO LIST IT ON EBAY today for $3,000 with a "BUY IT NOW" price of $4,000, including delivery anywhere on the west coast, but I also do need to sell, so let's talk. I also have a RB exhaust manifold modified for a 3" exhaust system. I'll consider delivering it anywhere between Canada and Northern Cal. Klaus 42, Are you still out there?
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Klaus43
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posted December 21, 2003 10:37 AM |
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Yeah, I'm here...!
Sooo... are you asking 'cause you wanna give 'uncle Klaus' a motor for Christmas? (Just checking!)
Seriously, though...:
Purchase date from Atkins... how long has it sat?
I take it it comes with the Atkins reciept...
Whatever became of your red REPU... guessing it sold without the motor...?
Please, do tell us the specifics as to how it was stored, and cared for during this time--not that we'd doubt it's un-fired newness, but these details might add to it's ultimate worth!
What, if any, Atkins warranties still apply to the motor or the Camden? Are they transferable with the engine?
What year motor is it? What is the porting? Any and all details, please!
Is there anything rotary you'd have rather than the money?
Definitely a powerplant to make one drool...
Thanks, K.
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Klaus43
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posted December 22, 2003 10:45 PM |
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Hey, J, you still there?
And, if you listed it, could you post the item number here for us? I saw your 12A sidedraft manifold...
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rotarydave
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posted December 25, 2003 04:04 PM |
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if it has not been fired Atkins may or may not honor the warranty as it is from date of sale, i know from experience but i do know that 99.9% of the time they have a perfect product and the supercharger kit alone is worth 2k, BTW everyone should know(if they don't already) Camden and Atkins are the same people. hope this helps
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jstutznegger
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posted December 26, 2003 04:57 AM |
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13B W/ Camden Supercharger
I have listed the engine on ebay under listing #24505031. The terms are a little different than shown here.
It has been well protected and I have made sure the engine has at least two to three revs per week. I can easily rotate it.
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scalliwag
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posted December 26, 2003 05:27 AM |
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There is usually so much prelube that unless you live in a pretty high humidity area there won't be any problems with that. All the lube in the side and apex seals left at least enough surface residue on the side plates and rotor housings that they should be safe since the motor was never fired off.
That is really a shame that you have to sell all of that. If I did not have my money tied into other projects I would be all over this. Best of luck on you recouping as much as possible.
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scalliwag
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posted December 26, 2003 05:35 AM |
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Oh, the item number is not right. It should have 10 characters and there are only 8.
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Klaus43
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posted December 26, 2003 03:03 PM |
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We do live in a 'high humidity' area...
And the complete auction number is... 2450503189 ...and now I'm REALLY drooling!
What year rotor housings/engine internals used?
Level of internal build/degree of non-stock/porting/other mods?
If you could provide Atkins' invoice number for reference, perhaps that would help us to get all the details from them... I sure am interested in all those little details... especially since you take PayPal... hint, hint... :)
What are those square-looking bits in the exhaust ports? Is that an indicator of more modern rotor housings used? I'm so oldschool, I've never seen those...
Looks like the old style (non-nitrided) REPU side steels...
Has the float bowl of the Holley been baffled to counteract fuel starvation during extremes of cornering/accelleration?
If it IS for me, I'd save you a trip, and come pick up myself... but I'd like that RB exhaust setup as well...
Thanks, K.
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scalliwag
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posted December 26, 2003 03:34 PM |
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What are those square-looking bits in the exhaust ports? Is that an indicator of more modern rotor housings used? I'm so oldschool, I've never seen those...
Those are baffles in the exhaust sleeve and I have only seen those on later sic port (2nd gen NA's)They may have been in earlier models but I never seen them in anything but 6 ports.
If so then this has to have side plates from s4 or s5 turbo because the water seal grooves with the later housings.
I am baffled by this one.
It sure looks bad ass though!
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scalliwag
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posted December 26, 2003 03:36 PM |
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Klaus43
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posted December 27, 2003 11:42 AM |
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Just noticed that motormount...
...looks like it wasn't fitting in there too easy...
Spoke with Gary on the phone at Atkins; he indicated that they would, indeed need the Invoice number in order to look up this motor... He mentioned they were in the process of overhauling both their pricing,(increases!), as well as how their warranty is applied... It did sound like there was some possibility of the warranty being transferrable... but this would require some further communication, and perhaps some verification of certain details...
I might go 'off the deep end' for such a powerplant... but I'd need the absolute low-down on every bit that went into it, as well as the current bottom line with Atkins, before going that much farther into debt--(no offense, John!)
So, about that invoice number... email me!
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roaddancer
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posted December 27, 2003 02:13 PM |
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The baffles may be what Mazda used to allow for a full dual exhaust. They break up the sharp-edged exhaust pulse that is so difficult to muffle. I have read that they did that, but haven't seen any to know for sure what they look like. I wonder what they cost the actual port flow. Must have added some turbulence..
Prior to that factory mod, the local rotary shop insisted that the engine couldn't be muffled in a full dual config. Certainly was true on my repu! It was loud enough to set off car alarms.
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Klaus43
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posted December 27, 2003 02:25 PM |
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It doesn't have to be 'loud' to do that...
Just needs to project enough of the pulse... I for one love setting off car alarms just by driving by; I think it's a hoot!
I'm not so worried about those baffles, I just wanna know all there is to know about the specifics of this motor's build... and, preferably, for Atkins to be willing to warranty the motor for it's new owner...
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rotarydave
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posted December 28, 2003 12:50 PM |
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from the pics of the engine that looks like a typical s/c 13b package which consisted of either a ported or unported 86-88 type 6port with hardened gears and cooling mods the baffles are standard in that rotor housing
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Klaus43
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posted December 28, 2003 01:03 PM |
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Thanks, Dave!
Naturally, I'm STILL curious as to the specifics... but every bit of info. helps!
New rotor housings? Porting? Hardened gears/cooling/oil mods 'standard' for the SC application, or to allow for higher RPM's?
Specific rotors used/compression ratio?
Rotors clearanced?
Rotating assembly balanced?
Not that I doubt Atkin's commitment to quality...
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Klaus43
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posted December 29, 2003 12:33 PM |
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O.K.; I'll stop wasting our time...
No invoice # = No details from Atkins = I won't be taking on more debt for the dream at this time. Sorry. Perhaps someone with more $$$$ will bid on this one anyway? Best of luck!
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nwaco
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posted December 29, 2003 12:57 PM |
Edited By: nwaco on 29 Dec 2003 12:59
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I always thought Atkins....
stamped an "ARXXXX" number on the front housing? If I am not mistaken, I processed a seven with an AR#. It made it easy to chase. Is he not providing it or does he not have it? I most certainly would not "loose" a receipt for a $5000 engine...at least untile the warranty was gone.
What's the story?
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kick
Hauling
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posted December 29, 2003 04:39 PM |
Edited By: kick on 29 Dec 2003 16:39
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jstutznegger
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posted December 30, 2003 02:27 PM |
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OKAY FOLKS,
I have some good news and some bad news.
First the good news. I do indeed have the invoice.
Here are the details (from invoice):
Remanufactured 13B - '86 type block with early front cover, S/C fitting in front cover.
New Wrapover manifold.
New Oil Pan & pickup - REPU pan.
New Waterpump and Housing.
New Complete Dual Electronic Ignition System.
New Holley 390 Carb. with Electric Choke, throttle bracket and clamp.
New K&N Air Filter and Housing.
New Air Filtering Lid.
New Special Clutch Kit Package: High Performance Clutch, Throw Out Bearing, Pilot Bearing, and Seal.
Here's the bad news (Not really bad, just different).
I was going by memory (Don't do this if you're old!) and was incorrect on the purchase date. The invoice shows 4/11/2001 (Time flies when you're having fun!). I'll release the invoice # if Dave Atkins says okay.
I won't reduce the price any further. It's a steal where it is. Rather than dump it a lower price, I'll part it out.
I did reduce the "Buy it Now" on ebay to $3,250 with delivery anywhere west of the Rockies.
Will help with shipping to any other location.
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Klaus43
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posted December 30, 2003 03:03 PM |
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Dave Atkins
doesn't need your OK --you need to be willing to provide such information to your potential buyer,(or not)...
The last time someone used the excuse of 'not wanting me to bother' a respected rotary mechanic regarding a REPU on ebaymotors, it was a bunch of BS to cover for missing paperwork. (Not saying that this is you, but it did happen to me that way.)
I certainly appreciate any details you and/or he are willing to provide--and I respect that he's a busy man with a business to run, and won't be bothering him needlessly. However, if it were me, I'd be only too willing to provide 'customer support', because the best customer is, after all, the repeat customer who brings back more business in the future.
A good reputation is priceless!
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