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Thread: 1st kill
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CareyC
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posted January 28, 2004 04:22 PM |
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1st kill
I haven't posted here very much and it's been a long time since I have but, I had to share this!
I had my engine rebuilt a fews months ago by one of our Mazda techs that builds rotary engines for drag racing on the side. I had Don street port the engine and it has a holly 600.
I've owned many rotary powered cars in the past and knew my old '77 REPU felt strong.
Today I was setting at a red light beside a 2001 or so Z28. When the light changed we both took off briskly. Then I heard him get all over the chevy. So what can I say...I nailed it!!! We were side by side through 1st gear and I grabbed 2nd @ 8000+ leaving him wondering what the hell happened.
I laughed my ass off! I'm sure he was embarresed.
I don't condon street racing but, I just could help myself.
Carey
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Ground_Rat
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posted January 31, 2004 12:01 PM |
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Hahaha, nice kill. You must really be putting out some power because the LS1 camaros run a low 13 stock.
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'87 Chevy Sprint turbo
'90 Plymouth Voyager turbo
'92 GMC Typhoon #591
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CareyC
Newbie
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posted February 13, 2004 04:27 PM |
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I think the guy simply couldn't drive worth a shit.
Don thinks my engine should be putting out around 210-230 HP. (it feels like it)
The 1st chance I get, I'll take the REPU over to Rotary Performance in Garland (RX7.com) and put it on the dyno.
I'll post the results...
CC
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ScottyG
1st Gear
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posted February 13, 2004 10:03 PM |
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I don't care how much your truck motor is ported or how big your Holley carb is..... there is NO WAY you can come EVEN CLOSE to staying up with a 98&up Z28.
Go take a ride in one and you'll change your tune.
The guy didn't realize y'all were "racing" or he couldn't drive very well.
I know what I'm talking about.... I have one of each.
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Klaus43
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posted February 14, 2004 01:25 PM |
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Not Even
with really big porting... or bridgeported, for that matter? What about acceleration through a certain range, nevermind who would win in a longer stretch? Not to mention who's smokin' 'em while the other's already hooked up and gone... ?
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ScottyG
1st Gear
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posted February 14, 2004 05:44 PM |
 Edited By: ScottyG on 14 Feb 2004 17:47 |
Look, I'm not bashing a Repu... I LOVE my truck, which is slightly modded with a street port job and a good exhaust. It's "peppy", but by no means is it "Fast".
A bone stock Z28/Formula/TransAM easily runs high 12-sec to low 13-sec 1/4 mile ET's. I'm talking about full weight stock street cars. Do you have any idea what it would take to make a Repu crack the 13 sec 1/4 mile barrier??
My Camaro runs consistent 11.5 sec 1/4 mile ET's at over 120mph. It's a full weight car (3600lbs), all electric, and I drive it every day (60k miles in 4 yrs). All it has is a good set of heads, a decent cam, and free flowing exhaust. That's what I consider to be "fast".... and my car's performance is considered "ho-hum" in the late model Camaro/Firebird/Corvette community.
Those of you that think a Repu can hang with a late-model V8 rear-wheel drive GM product are in a serious state of denial.
If there's a Repu out there that can run in the 11's then I want to know whether it has a Ford or Chevy engine in it.... and if it still has the Rotary bullet in it, then I'll bet it gets driven ONLY 1/4 mile at a time.
I'm serious.... go take a ride in a 98+ Z28, Formula, or TransAM with someone willing to flog it. Or maybe you'd better not.... you'll realize that your Repu ain't as fast as you think it is
....but it's STILL the coolest mini-truck ever made...hands down!
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Klaus43
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posted February 15, 2004 10:04 AM |
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Now I'd like to AT LEAST ride along
with you when you try to out-accellerate all rotary comers... as well as with the better rotary contenders!
Do peripheral ports count, as well?
Why did they ban rotaries from V-8 dominated racing anyway?
BTW, I do own a 350 Chevy... it's a '69 '4-bolt main' version, and it's in a 27' Bus... and it's FOR SALE, if anyone's interested... (or trade for 13B/oldschool ?)
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ScottyG
1st Gear
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posted February 15, 2004 10:18 AM |
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Sure there are such things a 9 sec rotaries (and faster probably), but it won't be driveable for longer stretches than 1/4 mile at a time. Race-car only.
My 11-sec car has A/C, all-power accessories, killer stereo, and gets OVER 20mpg on the highway..... and it'll rip on an Auto-X course. THAT'S a fast, total package.
The Repu is a truck...maybe a fast truck, a good handling truck.....but always a truck. In the overall .... it ain't fast nor does it handle well. And we wont EVEN talk about Repu gas mileage will we?
You're in denial Klaus... you've got you're own reality.... I've got mine, that's all.
I'm done...you're too stubborn...and you're missing the point.
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repuguru
Redlining
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posted February 15, 2004 02:49 PM |
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reality check.
Reality?
It seems to me that a 3 rotor engine would change our reality tremendously. With AC and power accesories to boot.
That is a possibility that exist to any Rotarhead.
All that matters is how much you want to spend.
Thats reality.
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Klaus43
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posted February 16, 2004 10:28 AM |
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Apples vs. Oranges...
No denial--just preference! If I had the kind of $$$$ one of those 'newer' V-8's runs, I could afford all kinds of efficient and powerful fuel-injection setups for rotaries, too...
If I wanted the AC, and all the other bells & whistles... I suppose I could have 'em...
Never meant to offend you, Scotty! I believe you when you say you LOVE your truck... (and no doubt it is nice, and practical, to have the other options as well).
And yes, of course, it is easier to make more modern technology perform... but there are some oldschool tricks, too!
Dollar for dollar, power to weight to displacement, I still prefer even my low-budget cheap-ass ratty REPU to a V-8. Even if my 302-powered Ford Van gets about the same mileage, and requires less attention.
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Jeff20B
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posted February 16, 2004 02:26 PM |
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I also don't have thirty grand to spend on some newer pushrod (or whatever) powered vehicle. Then again, I'm not intimidated by the newer stuff either. If I wanted heap-big amounts of torque, I'd have somebody help me soup-up a V8 and drop it into a '67 GMC truck or something (I love the small back window and lack of side marker lights on that particular year, oh and the dual REPU-like headlights).
I now have the REPU that will get a 20B some day. For now, it's just getting a streetported 13B. Hurray!
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'74 REPU
'76 Cosmo
'77 MG Midget 13B
'81 RX-7
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CareyC
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posted February 19, 2004 07:59 PM |
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Oh MY!
My REPU has A/C and killer stereo too!
The coolest accessory it has how rare it is.
Chevy Cameros don't come with that option.
This was not a standing stop...balls to the walls ...1/4 drag race. It's was 10mph to 60mph kind of thing and I kicked his ass. There is no doubt in my mind that I would get my doors blown off at the drag strip by the Z28. I think the guy just wanted to "power" around me and HE found that he could not.
CC
BTW...I used it own a '96 Impala SS (I liked it)
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Ian
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posted February 23, 2004 12:15 PM |
Edited By: Ian on 23 Feb 2004 12:33
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New guy here. Just have a thought on this race.
On a fairly stock Z28, as in exhaust, intake, maybe chip and a few other things, which at most is probably all this car had done to it, there is no reason the REPU couldn't have handed it too him.
Now i don't own a repu yet, i registered here today because I found one (finally!) this last weekend and was looking for info. I do have an 89 Colt though. Most people roll their eyes about my car. Even after LOOKING in the engine bay and SEEING the 4G63 (turbo eclipse engine), they blow me off as another ricer. Even after hearing the car run, still just a ricer (even though the exhaust is a low quite noise). It's not until we race from a dead stop (or roll) that they believe my car is fast. I can usually pass them at double there speed before 3rd is out. My low end power sucks compared to them, so they usually get a large jump, but its no comparison once i'm threw second and finally getting some traction.
Having that said, I don't expect my colt to run much faster than a 12.7 as it sits. Probably just a 12.9 (i regularly get my ass kicked by mid 12 cars). One thing to keep in mind though, is I live in denver. I'm a mile off the ocean. And I'm turbo, so i have more of an advantage up here, but still, unless its an SS, or a fairly built z28, the repu shouldn't have a problem with a street ported motor.
A stock SS at this altitude had a good run if it managed low 13s.
A stock Z28 at the altitude will be lucky to see high 14s. If that.
BTW, i doubt any of you are in my area, but if anyone wants to see the car, or meet up, let me know. I need to meet more rotor nuts. I haven't found too many up here.
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87 TII
89 4G63 Colt
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roaddancer
Hauling
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posted February 23, 2004 05:45 PM |
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A rolling start from the power band of a street ported 74 with it's low,low rear axle ratio would be a shocker to any camaro. Yup, no way to win for a quarter mile, but the repu is lighter than the camaro, and street-ported would get much closer to the same power to weight.
Most modern performance cars are geared up for fuel economy, not down like the repu. Gives it an advantage from 15 to 60 or so. Above sixty, you start to feel the wind, and a repu sucks for aero. Mine used to lift the back wheels almost off the ground above 100. Really scary..
I used to embarrass Porsche 911s by holding them to up to 75 or so before they could start to pull away, and that was with a stock original 74 repu engine with a header and rejetted stock carb. Ate a 280Z alive one day..He never knew what hit him. And I know he was racing, it was a co-worker.
Don't ever discount a repu! I expect that the addition of a nitrous bottle would get one into the elevens while still being driveable on the street.
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rx2/3/4/cosmo,repu,94 rx7,
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Klaus43
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posted February 23, 2004 11:29 PM |
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...15 to 60...
...that's catching 2nd, winding it out, and grabbin' 3rd... trouble is, then I wanna wind out 3rd... and 4th... (before I know it, I'm doing 90--whoops!)
Funny how many 'whatever' sedan drivers just HATE not being able to cut off the REPU...
Maybe that 1st-gen 5-speed is good for something, after all...?
It's all good, as long as that ancient vacuum diaphragm pops the secondaries. When it doesn't... aargh! (And, yes, I have the vacuum bleed modified...)
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woody
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posted February 25, 2004 04:03 PM |
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Hay scottyG
down in austraila we never got the REPU but many conversions have been done with other mazda ute and some of them run 10's and they are daily driver and parts chasers.
No one has every built one for drags yet, and the daily driver one all run 13b turbo's.
I am build one now with a 13b bridge port as i have never had a ported rotor yet, but might convert to turbo power in the future.
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Elysian
Revvin Up
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posted March 01, 2004 05:50 AM |
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quote:
I haven't posted here very much and it's been a long time since I have but, I had to share this!
I had my engine rebuilt a fews months ago by one of our Mazda techs that builds rotary engines for drag racing on the side. I had Don street port the engine and it has a holly 600.
I've owned many rotary powered cars in the past and knew my old '77 REPU felt strong.
Today I was setting at a red light beside a 2001 or so Z28. When the light changed we both took off briskly. Then I heard him get all over the chevy. So what can I say...I nailed it!!! We were side by side through 1st gear and I grabbed 2nd @ 8000+ leaving him wondering what the hell happened.
I laughed my ass off! I'm sure he was embarresed.
I don't condon street racing but, I just could help myself.
Carey
yesterday morning, long before i popped my motor lol there was some lowered chevy pickup, 80s model, sounded pretty nasty... but i kept up with him burning all the way thru 1st and part of second, so i know if i could have kept traction(even those 265's in the back can't keep it) i woulda just smoked him
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rotarydave
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posted March 02, 2004 04:53 PM |
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Ok, ok everyone just calm down.
I can see the tempers flaring.
Yes the camaro will win in a drag race, no the camaro will not win in a rolling race if the pickup is set up right, he said it was a 77 so i have to assume it has the long gears but it won't accelerate as fast..... thats ok it is a monster ported 13b fed by a giant holley and no doubt was in its power band yes that camaro has a sweet motor and probably a 6 speed and that is part of its undoing here. The camaro can get a great hookup off the line, the repu forget it.
But with the gears and all the power if i am in 2nd i will only shift once compared to the camaros shifting 2 or 3 times, yes i am sure the repu was underated, but my sister and her husband run a performance shop that specializes in the camaros and firebirds her baby that is drag raced and gets high 11's still plays second fiddle to most of my rotaries on rolling races but only up to about 90 then i am toasted hard
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