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Thread: Anyone Still Making Drive Shafts?
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posted April 02, 2008 03:16 PM |
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Anyone Still Making Drive Shafts?
Does anyone know of any aftermarket companies still offering new drive shafts for our trucks?
Neal.
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posted April 03, 2008 09:59 AM |
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Had a new one made of aluminium. there's a thread or 2 on that.
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posted April 09, 2008 08:06 AM |
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Thanks, Brad...
I remember seeing Dan posting about that, as well as Andy, but I want a totally stock setup. I have my spare parts driveshaft being rebuilt by a Michigan based heavy truck repair and parts shop, Valley Truck Parts. They were able to source me an NOS carrier bearing, will be replacing the joints, cleaning it up and rebalancing it for about $400. I am supposed to have it back in a week or so. I'd have it much sooner, but we have to wait for the carrier bearing to arrive via UPS Ground from California.
I'm really excited to see how the truck drives with a 'new' driveshaft, with fresh joints and bearing, imparting no harmonics to the drivetrain. My next step after that is installed is to completely rebuild the suspension and brakes (though it really isn't necessary). I am also going to have a radiator recored just for the heck of it.
Neal.
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posted April 10, 2008 07:44 AM |
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Center carrier bearings are readily available aftermarket. My local part store had them in stock:
National part# 205, SKF part# 6205J...
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posted April 10, 2008 07:56 AM |
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Great!
Thanks! I am ashamed to admit I never looked into the carrier bearing on it's own. I knew I would have to find a complete driveshaft (since the joints were slam worn out), or get someone that can rebuild the joints as well as replace the bearing while they were at it, since it needed the assembly rebalanced (and I wanted that done with all new parts). I appreciate the info, I'll order up one or two to put back on the shelf for down the road.
Thanks Again!
Neal.
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posted April 11, 2008 07:07 AM |
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I suppose you could order a few to be safe, (I would trust SKF more than National) but as I said, it was in stock at the parts store, which usually means it is not an uncommon part. I checked online and here are the cars that bearing is used on. With cars like the Charger, 'Cuda, and old FJ Landcrusher, they'll be around for a while.
CHEVROLET back to top
1942 - 1946 TRUCK
CHRYSLER back to top
1958 - 1969 300
1958 SARATOGA
1958 - 1964 IMPERIAL
1958 - 1965 TOWN & COUNTRY
1958 - 1969 NEW YORKER
1968 - 1969 TOWN & COUNTRY
1958 - 1964 NEWPORT
1958 WINDSOR
1966 - 1969 NEWPORT
DODGE back to top
1969 - 1970 A100
1961 - 1962 LANCER
1971 - 1977 B100 VAN
1974 M300
1971 - 1977 B200 VAN
1974 M350
1971 - 1977 B300 VAN
1965 - 1972 MONACO
1974 - 1977 CB300
1969 - 1972 P200
1966 CHARGER
1969 - 1972 P300
1968 - 1972 CHARGER
1960 - 1972 POLARA
1958 - 1959 CORONET
1974 - 1977 RAMCHARGER
1965 - 1972 CORONET
1969 - 1977 W100 PICKUP
1969 - 1977 D100 PICKUP
1977 W150 PICKUP
1977 D150 PICKUP
1969 - 1977 W200 PICKUP
1969 - 1977 D300 PICKUP
1969 - 1977 W300 PICKUP
1960 - 1968 DART
FORD back to top
1972 - 1979 COURIER
MAZDA back to top
1971 616
1977 - 1979 GLC
1972 618
1976 - 1977 MIZER
1979 626
1971 - 1972 R100
1972 - 1977 808
1974 - 1977 ROTARY PICKUP
1972 - 1976 B1600
1971 - 1974 RX-2
1977 - 1978 B1800
1972 - 1978 RX-3
1979 B2000
1974 - 1978 RX-4
1976 - 1978 COSMO
1979 RX-7
NISSAN back to top
1968 - 1970 2000
1986 - 1988 D21 PICKUP
1965 - 1968 520 PICKUP
1990 - 1993 D21 PICKUP
1969 - 1972 521 PICKUP
1994 PICKUP
1972 - 1979 620 PICKUP
1987 - 1988 VAN
1980 - 1986 720 PICKUP
PLYMOUTH back to top
1966 - 1969 BARRACUDA
1974 - 1978 TRAILDUSTER
1958 - 1963 BELVEDERE
1964 VALIANT
1958 - 1963 FURY
1966 - 1969 VALIANT
TOYOTA back to top
1969 - 1980 LAND CRUISER
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posted April 11, 2008 07:35 AM |
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Ahhh...
...I now see why it was so hard for them to find mine. I just picked up one of the ones (#205- SKF one was not avail overnight through the store I usually use locally) you suggested. It's just the naked bearing. What Valley found for me was a true NOS complete assembly- bearing pressed in to new carrier housing and sealed.
Neal.
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posted April 11, 2008 07:36 AM |
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Also, GMB has the U-joints listed as well. Just FYI, (though I know this is too late for you, it might help someone else) you can generally change out the U joints fairly easily with a bench vice and a few sockets. Position a socket larger than the diameter of the U joint on one side, and a socket smaller than the U joint on the other. Put the whole mess in the vice and turn. The small socket will press the U joint out into the big socket. To re-install, you just use the small socket to press the U back in.
Would probably be best to take it to a machine shop for a balance after, but generally if you mark the driveshaft pieces so you can re-assemble the same way, it is not really necessary. Well, at least I've never done it.
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posted April 11, 2008 07:40 AM |
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Yeah, I've rebuilt the joints on RX-7 pre-'83 shafts before, bit with the other style, what some folks refer to as non-rebuildable (caps are not held in with retaining clips or rings, but held in by ridges in the yoke), I prefer to just have a shop do it, so I can go back on them in case the machined ridges get knarled up. Plus, I wanted it done properly and rebalanced like already mentioned, so it was just easier to have them do it all the way around- especially with me not able to find an NOS carrier assembly and they somehow did.
Neal.
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posted April 11, 2008 07:41 AM |
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...I now see why it was so hard for them to find mine. I just picked up one of the ones (#205- SKF one was not avail overnight through the store I usually use locally) you suggested. It's just the naked bearing. What Valley found for me was a true NOS complete assembly- bearing pressed in to new carrier housing and sealed.
Neal.
That's a pretty good find. Was it an oem Mazda unit?
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posted April 11, 2008 07:45 AM |
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Honestly, I have no idea. I may find that out when I pick the shaft up next week.
Neal.
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posted April 18, 2008 10:49 AM |
Edited By: kansei on 18 Apr 2008 10:51
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Got the shaft back...
Looks great, now I have greasable joints, and the new carrier/hanger bearing is nice and tight on the molded rubber, just like should be. My old shaft pivoted on that rubber mounting like one of the worn out joints it was so tired. Much better. Got it all installed last night, but still upgrading a few more things today and tomorrow, so no test drive yet.
The new carrier assembly turns out is just new, not NOS. They are still being made. My receipt has a part number of 2680-10. When I Googled this, I found that the part number corresponds to a carrier bearing (listed as being for a Courier) from the manufacturer Powertrain Industries Driveline Components. I was charged $68.77 for the new carrier assembly by the shop that rebuilt my shaft, and I figure they tacked on 15-20+% markup, so these things are actually quite inexpensive, and since they are still in production, no need to worry about getting more.
Thought I'd post the info for anyone who cares or wanted to grab one for their truck. I'll post up a pic or two under my album in the gallery.
Neal.
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posted November 17, 2010 06:14 PM |
Edited By: Brad on 17 Nov 2010 18:17
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posted November 18, 2010 04:09 AM |
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Did you just get one Brad?
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posted November 18, 2010 08:16 AM |
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Did you just get one Brad?
Neal.
It's being assembled this week Neal. Thanks for the part number.
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posted November 18, 2010 10:06 AM |
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Anyone know how to set driveline angle? Shim the trans crossmember, carrier bearing, and axle so they line up?
Any recommended pinion shim on a lowered truck?
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posted November 19, 2010 08:30 PM |
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check out inland driveline in ontario..
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posted November 24, 2010 11:22 AM |
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I gots a rebuilt driveshaft. New greasable u-joints, new carrier bearing. Machined the yoke smooth. Balanced. $299
Got it from:
Powertrain Industries - Gardena, CA
PHONE: (310) 515-2860 FAX: (310) 515-4704
ADDRESS:
16539 1/2 South Broadway Street
Gardena, CA 90248VIEW MAP
HOURS:Monday - Friday 8:00 To 5:00PST
http://www.driveshaftpro.com/gardena
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posted November 24, 2010 09:43 PM |
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Brad pinion angel is almost flat .how low is the truck ?For 2to3 in 10 to 15 degerr pinion shims usually do the trick .if you lower it and dont mess with the pinion angle it usually knocks out the u joints pretty quick .good luck
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posted November 28, 2010 05:29 PM |
Edited By: TimPA136 on 28 Nov 2010 17:31
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driveline angles
Brad,
How is the driveshaft?
Years ago I had some GMC suburban specs. to correct a shudder just after launch approx 15 mph as I recall. I didn't see them where I thought they might be.
Did you get to run your truck this weekend?
Tim
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